Fixing Panel IPC477D Communication Loss After WinCC SP5 Upgrade

David Krause17 min read
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Problem Summary

After upgrading the WinCC flexible 2008 Runtime on a SIMATIC Panel IPC477D (Windows 7) from Service Pack 3 (SP3) to Service Pack 5 (SP5), the HMI station loses S7 communication to a connected SIMATIC S7-300 CPU 317. The configuration transfer completes without error, ICMP ping between the panel and the CPU succeeds, and the WinCC flexible Runtime emits no system event or diagnostic alarm. Tags and variables that were functional in SP3 stop updating in SP5, and operator screens show static or default values. Reinstalling the Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 x64 Redistributable (already required by WinCC flexible Runtime on x64 systems) has no effect.

The fault is caused by two interacting conditions:

  1. The installed WinCC flexible 2008 SP5 lacks the cumulative S7 communication-driver fixes shipped in the later incremental updates for SP5 (Update 1 and Update 2). The base SP5 release contains known communication issues that were resolved in subsequent hotfix bundles.
  2. The PG/PC Interface (Set PG/PC Interface) on the Panel IPC477D is no longer bound to the correct access point and physical network adapter after the runtime upgrade. Because the S7 driver reads routing parameters from the PG/PC Interface rather than from the WinCC flexible project, an empty or wrong assignment produces silent failure: the TCP/IP stack is reachable, but the S7 layer cannot find its endpoint.

Both conditions must be remediated to restore communication. The remainder of this document covers affected versions, prerequisites, the recovery procedure, and field verification.

Affected System Configuration

The failure mode has been reproduced on the following combination. Other Panel PC and IPC variants running WinCC flexible 2008 are likely to be affected under the same conditions.

Component Description / Example Notes
HMI Station SIMATIC Panel IPC477D (6AV7240-1... family) Built-in 12", 15", or 19" touch display
Operating System Windows 7 Ultimate 32/64-bit or Windows Embedded Standard 7 (WES7) OS SP1 not required for this issue
Configuration Software WinCC flexible 2008 SP5 (Engineering) Used to compile and transfer the HMI project
Runtime Software WinCC flexible 2008 Runtime SP5 (pre-installed on IPC477D image) Upgraded from SP3 image
PLC SIMATIC S7-300 CPU 317 (6ES7317-2EK14-0AB0, 6ES7317-2AK14-0AB0, 6ES7317-2FK14-0AB0) PROFINET or PROFIBUS interface
Network Adapter Onboard Intel 82574L / 82579LM Gigabit Ethernet Bound to CP_HMI_1 or S7ONLINE access point
Always cross-check the actual order number (MLFB) printed on the device nameplate before ordering spare parts, software updates, or replacement panels. The CPU 317 has been re-released several times; the firmware version on the CPU is read with STEP 7 / TIA Portal under PLC > Module Information.

Software Lifecycle Reference

WinCC flexible 2008 is the HMI configuration suite for SIMATIC Panels, Panel PCs, and Multi Panels (except Comfort Panels and TIA-only devices). It was succeeded by WinCC in the TIA Portal, but the WinCC flexible 2008 branch is still maintained for legacy installations. The relevant release levels are:

Release Notes
WinCC flexible 2008 SP1 Initial feature release after base
WinCC flexible 2008 SP2 Adds new panel types; expanded driver set
WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 Common baseline in many plants
WinCC flexible 2008 SP4 Intermediate service pack
WinCC flexible 2008 SP5 Final service pack for the WinCC flexible 2008 branch
WinCC flexible 2008 SP5 Update 1 First incremental hotfix bundle on top of SP5
WinCC flexible 2008 SP5 Update 2 Second incremental hotfix bundle; contains S7 communication fixes
WinCC flexible 2008 SP5 Update 3+ Subsequent bug-fix and compatibility releases

The SP5 Update 2 entry is published in the Siemens Industry Online Support under entry ID 109757233. Siemens explicitly recommends installing the latest available Update for SP5 on both the engineering station and the runtime station to inherit the S7 communication driver corrections that are not present in the base SP5 image.

Root Cause Analysis

Why Ping Succeeds but S7 Fails

The ICMP ping utility tests the IP layer only. S7 communication uses a session-based protocol on top of TCP (port 102 for S7 Communication, ISO-on-TCP / RFC 1006) and a separate connection handshake that negotiates the S7 communication parameters (rack/slot, PDU size, etc.). When the WinCC flexible Runtime cannot find a valid S7 access point bound to an Ethernet adapter, it does not even attempt to open port 102; the connection failure is silent because the runtime driver never raises a transport-level event. As a result, no entry appears in the WinCC flexible event log, and no alarm is generated on the PLC.

PG/PC Interface in Detail

The PG/PC Interface is a Windows control panel applet installed by SIMATIC software (STEP 7, WinCC flexible, SIMATIC NET) that maps logical S7 access points to physical interfaces:

Access Point Typical Use Default Interface Assignment
S7ONLINE STEP 7 programming and online diagnostics TCP/IP > <Intel NIC>
CP_HMI_1 WinCC flexible HMI communication over Ethernet TCP/IP > <Intel NIC>
CP_HMI_2 WinCC flexible HMI communication over PROFIBUS PC Adapter / CP5611 / CP5613
CP_HMI_3, CP_HMI_4 Additional WinCC flexible connections (redundancy, sub-nets) User-defined

When WinCC flexible Runtime is uninstalled or upgraded, the installer removes and re-creates the access-point bindings. After the SP3 → SP5 upgrade, the CP_HMI_1 access point is recreated but may default to a different network adapter, or it may be left "unassigned" pending a manual selection. The HMI connection in the WinCC flexible project continues to reference the S7 PLC, but the runtime cannot route the request because its endpoint is unbound.

SP3 to SP5 Driver Change

WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 and SP5 share the S7 communication architecture, but SP5 includes a re-baselined S7 DOS driver stack. Specific symptoms of running with SP5 base (no Update) include:

  • No diagnostic event for the affected connection in the WinCC flexible alarm log.
  • Tag status "Bad quality" or "No connection" in the HMI tag editor and in runtime.
  • Successful reverse-direction test: a maintenance PG on the same network can connect to the CPU and read/write tags through STEP 7, which proves the PLC and cabling are intact.
  • No firewall rule added for port 102 (because the connection never opens).
Panel IPC477D WinCC flex 2008 SP5 CP_HMI_1 = TCP/IP TCP/102 PROFINET Switch Layer-2 forwarding no inspection PROFINET S7-300 CPU 317 6ES7317-2EK14-0AB0 Rack 0 / Slot 2

Pre-Upgrade Checklist

Capture the following information before touching the panel. The data is required to roll back if the upgrade is not yet complete and to validate the recovery procedure.

  1. Record the WinCC flexible 2008 project version, panel image version, and runtime build number. Open the project in WinCC flexible, then select Project > Properties to read the version; on the panel, open Control Panel > WinCC flexible Runtime > About.
  2. Capture the current SP3 runtime version with the installed-software list (Programs and Features in Windows 7).
  3. Document the active S7 connection parameters from the project: HMI tag scope, area pointers, connection name, PLC address, rack/slot, and connection type (PROFINET / PROFIBUS / MPI).
  4. Capture the network configuration of the Panel IPC477D: IPv4 address, subnet mask, default gateway, and the Windows description of the active Ethernet adapter (Device Manager > Network Adapters).
  5. Perform a complete backup of the SP3 runtime image (full disk image or at minimum a system-state backup) and export the WinCC flexible project (.hmi or .fwx file).
  6. Verify that the S7-300 CPU 317 firmware supports the desired connection type. CPU 317-2 PN/DP variants (6ES7317-2EK14-0AB0 and later) support PROFINET IO and S7 communication simultaneously. Older CPU 317-2 DP variants (6ES7317-2AK14-0AB0) require PROFIBUS for the second interface.
  7. Verify that STEP 7 V5.5 with the matching SP/HF is installed on a maintenance PG for the offline project conversion to SP5, and that the maintenance PG has access to the latest WinCC flexible 2008 SP5 Update from the Siemens support portal.
Do not skip the backup. SP5 project files cannot always be down-converted to SP3; the conversion is one-way for some panel types. Always keep a project file in the original SP3 format as a fallback.

Step-by-Step Recovery Procedure

Step 1 - Update Engineering and Runtime to the Latest WinCC flexible 2008 SP5 Update

  1. On the engineering station, install the most recent WinCC flexible 2008 SP5 Update (Update 2 or later, per Siemens guidance) from entry 109757233 in the Siemens Industry Online Support.
  2. Open the existing project, then recompile the project in WinCC flexible 2008 SP5: Project > Compiler > All. Review the "Check" log for unresolved cross-references and unsupported tags.
  3. Transfer the recompiled project to the Panel IPC477D using the standard transfer mode (Ethernet / RS-232 / USB / PROFIBUS). Confirm that the runtime restarts and the operator screen loads without a transfer error.
  4. On the Panel IPC477D, install the matching WinCC flexible 2008 Runtime SP5 Update (same Update number as the engineering station). The runtime update is a separate installer; do not assume the engineering update alone carries the runtime patches.

Step 2 - Recompile and Transfer the Project

Do not skip the recompile. A project created under SP3 that is opened and saved under SP5 without a full recompile can carry stale connection descriptors. The procedure is:

  1. Open the project in WinCC flexible 2008 SP5 (with the latest Update installed).
  2. Project > Compiler > Rebuild All (or Compile > All in older builds). Resolve every warning of category "Connection" or "Tag".
  3. Transfer the project to the panel using Transfer > Transfer with mode "Serial / Ethernet / USB / PROFIBUS" as appropriate. The transfer must complete without timeout or "Transfer aborted" message.

Step 3 - Configure the PG/PC Interface on the Panel IPC477D

The PG/PC Interface is the silent culprit. It is opened from the Windows Control Panel on the Panel IPC477D; in some IPC477D images the applet is grouped under "Siemens Automation" or "SIMATIC".

  1. Open Control Panel > Set PG/PC Interface (in German: "PG/PC-Schnittstelle einstellen").
  2. In the "Access Point of the Application" drop-down, select CP_HMI_1 (used for Ethernet-based HMI communication). For PROFIBUS connections, select CP_HMI_2.
  3. In the "Interface Parameter Assignment Used" list, select the TCP/IP entry that points to the Panel IPC477D's primary Ethernet adapter (the one physically connected to the S7-300 / PROFINET network). Confirm that the IP address shown matches the network configuration captured in the pre-upgrade checklist.
  4. Click OK and close the applet. Windows may prompt to register the access point; allow it.
  5. Verify that the assignment persists across reboot. Reboot the panel and re-open the applet to confirm.
If the applet is missing from Control Panel, launch it directly from %SystemDrive%\Program Files (x86)\Siemens\Automation\Simatic_OAM\bin\s7hspsetx.exe on 64-bit Windows 7, or %SystemDrive%\Program Files\Siemens\Automation\Simatic_OAM\bin\s7hspsetx.exe on 32-bit Windows 7. The exact path can differ by SP and Update; the executable name is consistent.

Step 4 - Verify S7 Connection Parameters in the WinCC flexible Project

While the project is open on the engineering station, confirm that the S7 connection matches the physical network:

  1. Project > Connections > open the affected connection.
  2. Verify the "PLC device" matches the CPU 317 variant installed in the cabinet (PROFINET / PROFIBUS / MPI).
  3. For PROFINET connections: the "IP address" field must equal the IP address configured in the CPU's PROFINET interface (CPU 317-2 PN/DP only). The "Rack" and "Slot" fields must equal 0 and 2 respectively (S7-300 default PROFINET slot).
  4. For PROFIBUS connections: the "MPI/PROFIBUS address" must match the CPU's DP address (default 2), and the baud rate must match the configured DP rate on the network.
  5. For area pointers (date/time, PLC job, project ID, etc.), re-confirm the configured DB numbers and offsets. SP5 enforces stricter validation of pointer ranges; out-of-range values cause silent connection failure even if the basic IP parameters are correct.

Step 5 - Restart the WinCC flexible Runtime

  1. On the Panel IPC477D, stop the runtime if it is running (Start > Programs > WinCC flexible 2008 Runtime > Close, or use Alt+F4 in the runtime). Wait 5 seconds.
  2. Start the runtime from the desktop icon or autostart. Watch the boot-time diagnostic display for S7 connection events.
  3. Confirm the connection status with a tag in the project (e.g., a status bit driven by the connection-state area pointer).

PG/PC Interface Reference Configuration

The following settings are required for a single-CPU HMI network with one Ethernet adapter. Adjust for redundant or multi-network topologies.

Field Value Comment
Access Point CP_HMI_1 WinCC flexible default for Ethernet HMI
Interface Parameterization TCP/IP > <Ethernet adapter description> Adapter physically connected to the S7 subnet
IP address on panel Static, in the same subnet as the CPU 317 PROFINET interface PROFINET typically uses 192.168.0.x or 10.0.0.x
Subnet mask 255.255.255.0 (or project-specific) Match CPU's PROFINET configuration
Default gateway Empty for single-subnet HMI networks Required only for routed topologies
PROFIBUS access point (where used) CP_HMI_2 Bound to CP 5611 / CP 5613 / PC Adapter USB
Windows Firewall rule for TCP 102 Allow inbound and outbound Use Windows Firewall with Advanced Security

S7 Connection Parameter Reference

Use the following checklist when verifying or rebuilding the S7 connection in the WinCC flexible project.

Parameter PROFINET (CPU 317-2 PN/DP) PROFIBUS (CPU 317-2 DP) MPI
Connection type in WinCC flexible Ethernet (PROFINET / S7 Communication) PROFIBUS (S7 Communication) MPI (S7 Communication)
Address field IP address of CPU PROFINET interface (e.g., 192.168.0.10) DP address of CPU (e.g., 2) MPI address of CPU (e.g., 2)
Port 102 (TCP / ISO-on-TCP) n/a (PROFIBUS telegram) n/a (MPI telegram)
Rack 0 0 0
Slot 2 (S7-300 PROFINET interface) 2 (S7-300 PROFIBUS interface) 2 (CPU slot)
PDU size Auto / 480 bytes Auto / 240 bytes Auto / 240 bytes
Connection resource on CPU Reserved S7 connection resource (max 16 for CPU 317-2 PN/DP) Reserved S7 connection resource (max 16 for CPU 317-2 DP) Reserved S7 connection resource (max 16)
S7-300 CPUs share connection resources between HMI, S7 communication, and PG/OP. If "No resources" errors appear after adding connections, re-balance the connection resource allocation in STEP 7 > Hardware > Properties of the CPU > Communication. HMI connections can typically be set as "HMI" type, which they have priority for.

Diagnostic Tools and Event Codes

When the runtime is silent, the connection state must be probed with the appropriate tools. The following utilities are part of the standard SIMATIC toolbox and can be run on the Panel IPC477D or on a maintenance PG connected to the same network.

WinCC flexible Runtime Events

WinCC flexible Runtime logs S7 connection events to its internal alarm log. The events most relevant to this issue are:

Event ID Description Typical Cause
140001 S7 connection failed / interrupted Network outage, wrong access point, or PLC in STOP
140002 S7 connection restored Recovery from 140001
140004 Tag status "Bad quality" Connected CPU does not contain the configured DB / address
140005 Connection resource exhausted on PLC Too many PG/HMI/S7 communication partners

For a quiet failure (no 14xxxx events), the runtime never even attempted the connection handshake. Re-check the PG/PC Interface binding before debugging the network.

Connection Lifecycle State Machine

Disconnected no S7 event SYN 102 Connecting S7 handshake S7_Comm_Start Connected tags updating timeout / STOP Fault re-arm (reconnect cycle)

STEP 7 Online Diagnostics

On a maintenance PG with STEP 7 V5.5 installed:

  1. Open the STEP 7 project containing the CPU 317.
  2. PLC > Online > Accessible Nodes. The panel's HMI connection should appear in the list if the PG/PC Interface on the panel is correct AND if WinCC flexible Runtime has opened port 102.
  3. PLC > Module Information > Diagnostic Buffer. Look for S7 communication errors and HMI connection-accept/reject entries.

Wireshark / Port Test

If the connection still does not start, run a Wireshark capture on the panel's Ethernet adapter (filter tcp.port == 102) and trigger a tag refresh in the runtime. If no TCP packets are observed, the S7 driver is not attempting to connect - the binding is wrong. If SYN packets are observed but no SYN-ACK is returned, the CPU is the problem (firewall on CPU, IP mismatch, wrong slot).

Verification and Acceptance Test

After applying the recovery procedure, perform the following acceptance checks before returning the panel to production:

  1. Operator screen update: open a process screen with at least 5 dynamic values from the CPU 317 (analog readings, counters, status bits). Confirm that values update within the configured acquisition cycle (default 1 s, fast 100 ms, slow 5 s).
  2. Alarm test: trigger a process alarm from the CPU side (e.g., set a bit in the configured alarm DB) and confirm the WinCC flexible Runtime displays the alarm within 1 s.
  3. PG/PC Interface persistence: reboot the panel twice. After each reboot, confirm that the S7 connection is established automatically and that the PG/PC Interface still shows CP_HMI_1 > TCP/IP > <adapter>.
  4. Transfer test: stop the runtime, perform a reverse project transfer from the panel to the engineering station, and confirm the project on the panel matches the engineering source (verify build timestamp in the project properties).
  5. Diagnostic buffer check: from the maintenance PG, read the CPU diagnostic buffer and confirm no new "Connection refused" or "Resource exhausted" entries for the panel during the test period.
  6. Round-trip tag test: write a value from the HMI (e.g., setpoint via input field), then read the same value back from the CPU in STEP 7 variable table. Confirm the write made it through to the PLC and is read back unchanged.
Document the verified configuration in the plant's HMI registry: panel order number, panel IP, PG/PC Interface access point, project file name, project checksum (md5 or sha256), runtime version including Update number, and the date of verification. This data is invaluable for the next upgrade or audit.

Troubleshooting Matrix

Symptom Likely Cause Diagnostic Step Fix
Ping OK, S7 silent, no events PG/PC Interface unbound or wrong adapter Open Set PG/PC Interface, inspect CP_HMI_1 Assign CP_HMI_1 to the correct Ethernet adapter
Ping OK, S7 silent, project transfers OK WinCC flexible 2008 SP5 missing Update 1/2 Check installed-software list for SP5 Update Install the latest SP5 Update on engineering + runtime
Ping OK, S7 connects then drops every 30-60 s Watchdog / keep-alive issue; sometimes firewall idle timeout Wireshark capture; check Windows Firewall rules Allow inbound/outbound TCP 102 in Windows Firewall with Advanced Security
Ping OK, S7 fails with 140001 within seconds Wrong rack/slot in connection Verify rack/slot in WinCC flexible connection Set Rack = 0, Slot = 2 for CPU 317
Ping OK, S7 fails with 140001 immediately Wrong CPU type / firmware incompatible Read CPU firmware version (Module Information) Update CPU firmware or adjust connection type
Ping OK, S7 connects but tags "Bad quality" Area pointer DB not present in CPU Compare area pointer DBs in STEP 7 vs. WinCC flexible Create / adjust the area pointer DBs in the CPU project
PG/PC Interface applet not visible Access point registration lost Run s7hspsetx.exe directly Reinstall SIMATIC NET or WinCC flexible Runtime
CPU diagnostic buffer shows "Connection resource exhausted" Too many PG/HMI partners for CPU 317 STEP 7 > CPU Properties > Communication Reallocate S7 connection resources to HMI
Reverting to SP3 runtime does not restore communication PG/PC Interface binding corrupted, not the runtime level Open Set PG/PC Interface and reset CP_HMI_1 Reset the access point and re-bind to the active NIC

Frequently Asked Questions

Why does ping work but WinCC flexible cannot connect to the CPU 317?

ICMP ping tests only the IP layer (Layer 3). S7 communication runs on TCP port 102 and requires a valid PG/PC Interface access point (CP_HMI_1) bound to the Ethernet adapter. A working ping proves the IP layer; it does not prove the S7 layer. Verify the PG/PC Interface access point first, then the SP5 Update level.

Does WinCC flexible 2008 SP5 require a specific Update level for S7 communication to work?

Yes. The base SP5 release contains communication-driver issues that were resolved in Update 1 and Update 2. Siemens recommends the latest available Update for SP5 on both the engineering station and the runtime station. The SP5 Update 2 entry is available under Siemens entry 109757233.

Can I open a WinCC flexible SP3 project directly in SP5 without conversion?

No. The project must be opened in WinCC flexible 2008 SP5 and saved. WinCC flexible performs an automatic project upgrade on first open. After the upgrade, recompile the project (Project > Compiler > All) and resolve every "Connection" or "Tag" warning before transferring to the panel.

Is the Panel IPC477D compatible with WinCC flexible 2008 SP5 Update 2?

Yes. The Panel IPC477D image for Windows 7 ships with a WinCC flexible 2008 Runtime that can be upgraded in place from SP3 to SP5 with the matching Updates. Always match the Update number on the engineering and runtime stations to avoid mixed-version conflicts, and re-verify the PG/PC Interface access point after every runtime upgrade.

What is the default S7 connection resource count for a CPU 317-2 PN/DP?

A standard CPU 317-2 PN/DP (6ES7317-2EK14-0AB0) provides 16 S7 communication resources shared between PG, OP/HMI, and S7 communication. If the panel cannot connect and the CPU diagnostic buffer shows "No resources", reduce the number of configured partners or reallocate resources under STEP 7 > CPU Properties > Communication > Connection Resources. HMI connections are typically pre-allocated to the OP slot.

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