The panel powers up, the 120 VAC control bus dips, contactors chatter or fail to pull in, and sensitive instruments reset or hang. Start here: separate continuous load from short-duration inrush, then decide which loads can occur at the same time. A 25 A, 8 ms input pulse is not a 3,000 VA continuous load, but ignoring it can still produce an unacceptable secondary-voltage dip.
Reject the fixes that waste time
Several shortcuts produce either an oversized transformer or a panel that fails during switching.
- Do not multiply every electronic load by an arbitrary inrush factor. A generic 2-to-5-times or 20-times multiplier discards the stated 25 A and 8 ms limits. Use the published maximum pulse and the transformer manufacturer's short-duration selection data.
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Do not size the transformer at 3,000 VA continuous. For the
1764-24AWA, 120 V multiplied by 25 A equals 3,000 VA at the specified maximum-inrush operating point. That arithmetic describes instantaneous input volt-amperes, not a 3,000 VA nameplate requirement. - Do not rely on 10% spare capacity as an inrush calculation. Ten percent can be a working allowance above the established steady load, but it does not predict the voltage dip caused by a high, brief pulse.
- Do not assume startup inrush is harmless. A contactor that is still de-energized may not care about the first dip, but an instrument already powered from the same transformer can reset or hang. A power supply that is switched during production creates a different operating case from one energized only with the panel.
- Do not install a massive shared transformer before checking segregation. A separate source for sensitive electronics can solve voltage-dip and transient problems more directly than increasing the shared transformer's rating.
Separate continuous VA from pulse demand
The panel has 480 VAC three-phase incoming power, but the control-transformer secondary is 120 VAC single-phase. Size that secondary with the single-phase relationship:
VA = V × I
The 100-C09 contactor has 8 VA sealed demand and 70 VA inrush demand. Its 70 VA requirement applies during coil pull-in; its 8 VA requirement remains after the armature closes. Repeated contactor operation makes both values relevant to normal machine operation.
The 1764-24AWA has 70 VA power consumption and a maximum power-supply inrush current of 25 A for 8 ms. At a nominal 120 V:
120 V × 25 A = 3,000 VA
Keep the result labeled as a short input pulse. Do not convert it to RMS current, average VA, or an equivalent continuous load. That conversion would require the current waveform, off-state current, and repetition period. None of those quantities is supplied.
The transformer's winding resistance, leakage impedance, upstream source impedance, and secondary conductors limit the actual pulse. The same impedance produces the visible voltage sag. The design question is therefore not whether the transformer can deliver an ideal 25 A indefinitely; it is whether its secondary stays above every connected load's acceptable voltage during the 8 ms event.
Match each symptom to the active load
| Panel symptom | Likely cause or first check |
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| Dip occurs only when the panel is energized | Cold-start inrush from the AC-fed DC supply or multiple electronic inputs starting together. Capture the 120 VAC minimum during initial energization. |
| Contactor chatters when another load switches | The shared secondary falls below the coil's usable voltage during pull-in. Compare the measured minimum with the coil manufacturer's pickup and dropout data. |
| Instrument resets while contactors operate | A brief control-voltage dip or switching transient reaches a sensitive load sharing the transformer. Segregate the sensitive supply or reduce the simultaneous disturbance. |
| Transformer runs hot after startup | Continuous sealed and electronic loads, duty cycle, or ambient/application derating are wrong. An isolated 8 ms startup pulse is not the first suspect. |
| Voltage is low even when nothing switches | The continuous VA, secondary wiring drop, primary tap selection, or upstream voltage needs correction. Increasing an inrush allowance alone will not fix a steady undervoltage condition. |
| Problem appears when a laptop adapter is connected | The adapter adds steady load and an input-capacitor charging pulse whenever it is switched in. Treat that switching event as part of the operating sequence. |
Build the simultaneous-load cases
Sequence changes which inrush values belong in the same case. Document actual switching states instead of adding every maximum indiscriminately.
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Panel cold start: Include the 70 VA continuous demand of the
1764-24AWAand its 25 A for 8 ms startup pulse. Add other electronic inputs that energize from the same secondary at that instant. Add contactor inrush only if a contactor is commanded during that same interval. -
Normal contactor operation: Add 70 VA for each
100-C09pulling in at that moment, 8 VA for each already sealed100-C09, and the operating demand of the DC-fed system and other 120 VAC loads. - Switched accessory operation: Include the accessory's stated input inrush whenever it can be plugged in or switched during operation. The fact that it resembles a small adapter does not remove its charging pulse.
- Restart after a brief outage: Determine which devices re-energize together. If logic or relays immediately command contactors while electronic supplies restart, this can be more demanding than an orderly cold start.
Sequencing reduces transformer stress only when the events are actually separated. Confirm that separation under power restoration, manual operation, and fault recovery. Do not credit an undocumented operator habit or an assumed controller delay.
Size the transformer with a voltage-dip limit
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Total the continuous load. Add the stated running or sealed VA of every load that can remain energized. For the cited devices, use 70 VA for the
1764-24AWAand 8 VA for each sealed100-C09. - Create one row for each switching case. Record which loads are steady, which contactor coils are pulling in, and which electronic input is starting.
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Keep pulse duration attached to pulse magnitude. Record the
1764-24AWAevent as 25 A for 8 ms at the 120 VAC input. Do not replace it with 3,000 VA continuous. - Set the allowable secondary-voltage minimum. Use the strictest connected device's published input range, ride-through behavior, and contactor pickup/dropout requirements. About 85% of nominal is a useful field screening point for possible 120 V contactor dropout or chatter, not a substitute for the actual coil data.
- Select from transformer performance data. Check the candidate transformer's regulation or inrush-selection information at the required continuous VA and short-duration load. If the manufacturer presents separate tables or curves for control-device inrush, use the case that matches the pulse and permitted voltage dip.
- Check conductors and protection. Excessive secondary wiring impedance can create a local dip even when the transformer is adequate. Select protection from the transformer's documented application requirements and applicable panel rules; do not enlarge protection merely to conceal repeated trips.
- Add an engineering allowance after the calculation. A modest spare allowance, such as the cited 10%, can cover expected continuous additions. It cannot replace the pulse and voltage-dip checks.
Choose between sharing and segregation
Use one transformer when measured voltage remains acceptable through every switching case and the connected electronics tolerate the control-bus environment. This keeps the architecture simple and avoids adding hardware solely because the arithmetic produced 3,000 instantaneous VA.
Separate the 24 VDC power supply when sensitive instruments reset, hang, or lose data while large contactors switch. Segregation also prevents a DC-supply startup pulse from pulling down the AC coil bus and reduces exposure of instrumentation to contactor-generated transients. Size the separate transformer for the power supply's continuous demand and its own startup pulse using the same method.
A larger shared transformer remains a valid choice when simultaneous operation is unavoidable and the voltage-dip calculation supports it. Compare that solution with a separate source on secondary-voltage performance, panel space, protection, wiring, and future load growth—not on nameplate VA alone.
Verify the result at the panel
- Measure steady conditions first. Record primary voltage, transformer secondary voltage, and secondary current with all normal sealed and electronic loads operating.
- Capture the minimum 120 VAC voltage. Use an instrument with sufficient transient capture capability across the secondary while energizing the panel. A slow display may miss an 8 ms dip.
- Repeat every credible sequence. Test cold start, individual and simultaneous contactor pull-in, switched accessories, and restoration after a brief loss of supply.
- Measure at the affected device. A good reading at the transformer does not rule out conductor or terminal voltage drop between the transformer and the load.
- Watch device behavior. Check for coil chatter, failed pickup, PLC restart, instrument reset, communication loss, or a supply status change. Compare the captured minimum voltage with each device's published limits.
- Retest after segregation or resizing. The fix passes only when the worst sequence produces acceptable voltage and no connected device changes state unexpectedly.
If the initial measurement shows a steady low secondary voltage, correct the continuous loading, tap, source, or wiring problem first. That is not an 8 ms inrush fault.
FAQ
How do I use the 25 A for 8 ms rating when sizing the transformer?
Record it as a short-duration 120 VAC input event and check the candidate transformer's voltage dip at that pulse while carrying the continuous load. The corresponding instantaneous arithmetic is 3,000 VA, but it is not a 3,000 VA continuous transformer requirement.
How do I combine the contactor and DC power-supply loads?
Add 8 VA for each sealed 100-C09, 70 VA for each one pulling in, and 70 VA continuous for the 1764-24AWA. Add the 25 A, 8 ms supply pulse only to a case in which that device starts, and combine it with contactor inrush only when both events can overlap.
How do I know whether sequencing lets me select a smaller transformer?
List the actual cold-start, normal switching, accessory, and power-restoration states, then capture the secondary minimum for each. Credit sequencing only when the control design keeps the inrush events separated in every operating and recovery mode.
How do I know when to stop troubleshooting and escalate?
Stop when the measured pulse, minimum secondary voltage, or acceptable transformer inrush curve cannot be reconciled with the device and transformer documentation, or when resets continue after wiring drop and load sequence have been isolated. Send the captured 120 VAC waveform, continuous load list, switching sequence, transformer data, and exact device identifiers to official manufacturer support for selection guidance.