Problem: TP177B 6" PN/DP 'No Establish Connection' During Transfer
The SIMATIC TP177B 6" PN/DP (MLFB 6AV6642-0BA01-1AX1) is a STN 256-color panel with MPI/PROFIBUS DP (RS485/RS422), USB host, and Ethernet 10/100 interfaces. When engineers attempt project transfer from WinCC flexible to the panel using the USB PC Adapter (6ES7 972-0CB20-0XA0), the software reports "No establish connection" and the transfer aborts. This is not a configuration bug — it is a hardware/protocol compatibility constraint enforced by Siemens.
Affected Hardware and Part Numbers
| Item | MLFB / Article Number | Role |
|---|---|---|
| SIMATIC TP177B 6" PN/DP Color | 6AV6642-0BA01-1AX1 | Target HMI panel (PN/DP Ethernet variant) |
| USB PC Adapter | 6ES7 972-0CB20-0XA0 | USB↔MPI/PROFIBUS converter (NOT supported for transfer) |
| PC Adapter USB (legacy) | 6ES7 972-0CB20-0XA0 | Same hardware class; not released for TP177B transfer |
| PC/MPI Adapter (RS232) | 6ES7 972-0CA23-0XA0 | Not released for TP177B transfer |
| RS232 PPI Multi-Master Cable | 6ES7 901-3CB30-0XA0 | Supported for transfer to TP177B (COM port on PG/PC) |
| Standard Ethernet cable (RJ45, crossed or straight with Auto-MDIX panel port) | — | Supported for transfer to TP177B PN/DP |
Root Cause Analysis
The TP177B PN/DP exposes multiple physical interfaces, but the transfer channel is restricted to a subset of them by Siemens firmware policy. The error "No establish connection" appears when the configured channel in WinCC flexible cannot be reached by the panel's transfer dispatcher, or when the hardware handshake fails.
Three primary root causes are observed in field service:
- Unsupported cable/interface pairing. The PC Adapter USB and PC/MPI Adapter are not approved for transferring the TP177B, TP177A, TP170, OP177, and TP270 families. WinCC flexible will still allow the operator to select these interfaces, which leads to a failed handshake.
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PG/PC interface set to the wrong driver. Even on a supported cable (RS232 PPI), the PG/PC interface in the Control Panel must be bound to
PPIorEthernet TCP/IP, not toPC Adapter (MPI)orPC Adapter (PROFIBUS). -
Transfer mode disabled on the panel. The TP177B must have Transfer enabled in the Control Panel / Loader and the Channel set to either
SerialorEthernet. Some panels ship with transfer locked out for security.
Resolution Path: Choose a Supported Transfer Channel
The TP177B PN/DP supports exactly two transfer channels:
- Channel 1: Ethernet (10/100) on the PN port — preferred for speed and modern PCs without a serial port.
- Channel 2: RS232 PPI via the panel's sub-D interface and the RS232 PPI Multi-Master cable — preferred when no Ethernet switch is available or when the panel IP is unknown.
Both methods require WinCC flexible 2007 SP2 or later (SP3 / SP4 / SP5 / 2008 also valid). Earlier WinCC flexible versions cannot fully support the TP177B device image.
Method 1: Ethernet Transfer (Recommended)
Prerequisites
- TP177B PN/DP panel (6AV6642-0BA01-1AX1).
- WinCC flexible 2007 SP2 or later installed on the engineering station.
- Standard RJ45 patch cable (the PN port supports Auto-MDIX, so a 1:1 cable works for direct PC connection).
- Panel IP address known (default:
192.168.0.1, subnet255.255.255.0) or retrievable via the panel's loader.
Step-by-Step Procedure
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Configure the panel IP address. On the TP177B loader, open Control Panel → Network. Set a static IP (e.g.
192.168.0.1), subnet mask255.255.255.0, and disable DHCP. Press Apply and reboot the panel if prompted. -
Configure the engineering PC IP. Set the PC Ethernet adapter to a static address in the same subnet, e.g.
192.168.0.10, mask255.255.255.0. Do not assign a gateway unless routed transfer is required. -
Verify connectivity. From the PC command line, run
ping 192.168.0.1. A reply confirms Layer 3 reachability. If ping fails, swap the cable and re-check the port LEDs on the panel (green/yellow link lights). -
Open the project in WinCC flexible. In the project tree, right-click the TP177B device and select Transfer → Ethernet. Enter the target IP
192.168.0.1and click Transfer. - Trigger the panel to accept the transfer. If the panel is in normal operation, the transfer is rejected. On the panel, open the loader and start Transfer; the panel will wait for an incoming connection from the PG/PC.
- Monitor the progress bar. A typical 2 MB TP177B project transfers in 30–60 seconds over Ethernet. The panel automatically restarts after a successful transfer.
Method 2: RS232 PPI Transfer (No Ethernet)
Prerequisites
- RS232 PPI Multi-Master Cable (
6ES7 901-3CB30-0XA0) — note this is a serial cable, not USB. - PG/PC with a 9-pin COM port (or USB-to-RS232 adapter if no native COM exists).
- WinCC flexible 2007 SP2 or later.
Step-by-Step Procedure
- Connect the cable. Plug the 9-pin D-sub end of the PPI cable into the PC's COM port, and the panel-end connector into the TP177B RS422/485 sub-D port.
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Set the PG/PC interface. In WinCC flexible, open Options → Set PG/PC Interface. Select
PPIas the access point and bind it toCOM1(or whichever COM port the cable is attached to). Baud rate is auto-negotiated by the PPI cable (typically 19.2 kbps or 187.5 kbps depending on panel version). -
Enable transfer on the panel. On the TP177B loader, navigate to Transfer, set Channel to
Serial, and confirm Enable is checked. Return to the loader home screen. - Initiate the transfer. In WinCC flexible, choose Transfer → Serial (PPI). The transfer starts when the panel receives a valid PPI request. Progress is shown in the WinCC flexible dialog.
- Wait for panel restart. Upon successful completion, the panel reboots into the new project.
PG/PC Interface Reference (WinCC flexible / STEP 7 Set PG/PC Interface)
| Target Panel | Recommended Access Point | Driver | Physical Layer | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| TP177B PN/DP | ETHERNET |
TCP/IP (RFC1006) | RJ45 10/100 | Preferred; supports Auto-MDIX |
| TP177B PN/DP | PPI |
PPI | RS232 PPI Multi-Master | Use when no LAN infrastructure exists |
| TP177B PN/DP |
S7ONLINE (STEP 7) → PC Adapter (MPI) |
PC Adapter MPI | USB↔MPI | NOT supported for transfer |
| TP177B PN/DP |
S7ONLINE (STEP 7) → PC Adapter (PROFIBUS) |
PC Adapter DP | USB↔DP | NOT supported for transfer |
Firmware and Software Compatibility
The TP177B PN/DP panel image is supported by the following engineering environments (device integration):
- WinCC flexible 2007 SP2 / SP3 / SP4 / SP5
- WinCC flexible 2008 SP1 / SP2 / SP3 / SP4 / SP5
- WinCC flexible 2008 SP5 is the last release supporting the TP177B family before migration to TIA Portal (TP700 Comfort series is the TIA Portal successor).
Panel firmware (HMI image) updates are delivered as *.fwf files via the ProSave service tool or through WinCC flexible. The current HMI image revision for 6AV6642-0BA01-1AX1 is available in the Siemens SiePortal product entry linked at the end of this document.
TP177B Loader Transfer Settings (Panel-Side)
To access transfer settings, touch the Transfer icon in the panel loader (top-level menu shown during startup or when the runtime project has a Close project button configured). The relevant parameters are:
| Setting | Options | Recommended Value |
|---|---|---|
| Channel | Serial / Ethernet | Ethernet (PN/DP) for typical use |
| Enable Transfer | Yes / No | Yes |
| IP Address (Ethernet only) | xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx | 192.168.0.1 (default) |
| Subnet Mask | xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx | 255.255.255.0 |
| DHCP | On / Off | Off (use static for transfer stability) |
| Baud Rate (Serial) | 9600 / 19200 / 187500 | 187500 (auto) |
Troubleshooting Matrix
| Symptom | Likely Cause | Action |
|---|---|---|
| "No establish connection" with USB PC Adapter 6ES7 972-0CB20-0XA0 | Adapter is not released for TP177B transfer | Switch to Ethernet or RS232 PPI cable |
| "Connection refused" or timeout on Ethernet | Panel IP not reachable, transfer mode not enabled, or firewall blocking port 102 (RFC1006) | Ping the panel; verify Transfer is enabled; disable Windows firewall for the engineering subnet |
| Transfer starts, then aborts at ~10% | Intermittent cable or duplicate IP address | Replace cable; verify no other device on the LAN uses 192.168.0.1 |
| Panel shows "Operating system not compatible" | WinCC flexible version too old (e.g. 2005) | Upgrade to WinCC flexible 2007 SP2 or later |
| PPI transfer fails with parity/timeout errors | Wrong PG/PC interface (e.g. PC Adapter selected) or wrong COM port | Set access point to PPI, bind to the correct COM |
| Transfer dialog does not list TP177B PN/DP | Device integration not installed | Install WinCC flexible 2007 SP2+ or the TP177B HSP for the relevant version |
| Panel loader does not show Transfer icon | Project configured to suppress loader or autostart is enabled | Hold finger on the screen during power-up to force the loader, or temporarily disable autostart in the project |
Verification Steps After Successful Transfer
- Confirm WinCC flexible reports Transfer completed successfully with no error code.
- Verify the panel restarts automatically and displays the new runtime project.
- Open the panel's project information dialog (typically by pressing a configured Info button) and check the version timestamp matches the just-transferred project.
- Run a connectivity test from the panel's Control Panel → Network to confirm the IP, subnet, and MAC are intact.
- Re-enable any production-mode settings (autostart, password, screen saver) that may have been disabled for the transfer.
Diagnostic: Quick Decision Tree
- Does the PC have an Ethernet port? → Use Ethernet (Method 1).
- Is the panel in a network without a DHCP server? → Use static IP and Ethernet.
- Is the panel installed in a cabinet with no Ethernet drop? → Bring a laptop with a crossed/straight RJ45 and connect direct to the PN port.
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No Ethernet available at all? → Use the RS232 PPI Multi-Master cable (
6ES7 901-3CB30-0XA0). - PC has USB only (no COM)? → Add a USB-to-RS232 adapter (FTDI-based recommended) and use PPI; do not use the USB PC Adapter for transfer.
Related Notes and Field Caveats
The TP177B PN/DP is the Ethernet-capable variant in the TP177B family. The TP177B DP (no PN suffix) lacks the Ethernet port and is restricted to PPI/MPI transfer. Engineers are often confused by the part-number scheme: 6AV6642-0BA01-1AX1 is the PN/DP version with Ethernet; 6AV6642-0DC01-1AX1 is the Blue Mode STN variant; confirm the exact MLFB on the rating plate before troubleshooting the transfer interface.
For larger projects exceeding 4 MB, Ethernet transfer is strongly preferred — PPI serial transfer of a 4 MB+ project can take 10+ minutes and is more susceptible to interruption. Always verify the panel's Close project or Exit runtime button is configured before initiating a PPI transfer, because the runtime cannot be replaced while it is running and the loader must be active to accept the download.
For official product documentation, refer to the Siemens SiePortal product entry for MLFB 6AV6642-0BA01-1AX1, which lists the operating instructions, HMI image files, and the WinCC flexible device integration package. The WinCC flexible / TP transfer FAQ (entry ID 23800567) on the Siemens Support site provides the canonical list of supported transfer channels per panel model and is the authoritative reference when validating a transfer method.
FAQ
Why does the USB PC Adapter 6ES7 972-0CB20-0XA0 fail to transfer to a TP177B?
The USB PC Adapter is not released by Siemens for project transfer to the TP177B, TP177A, OP177, TP170, or TP270 panel families. Use Ethernet (RJ45) or the RS232 PPI Multi-Master cable (6ES7 901-3CB30-0XA0) instead. The adapter is intended for MPI/PROFIBUS programming of S7 PLCs, not for HMI panel transfer.
Which PG/PC interface setting should I use for the TP177B PN/DP in WinCC flexible?
Select the ETHERNET access point with the TCP/IP (RFC1006) driver for network transfer, or the PPI access point bound to the correct COM port for serial transfer. Do not select PC Adapter (MPI) or PC Adapter (PROFIBUS) — these are not released for TP177B transfer and will produce a "No establish connection" error.
What is the default IP address of the TP177B PN/DP?
The factory default IP is 192.168.0.1 with subnet mask 255.255.255.0 and DHCP disabled. The address is visible and editable from the panel's Control Panel → Network entry. If the IP has been changed and forgotten, perform a factory reset via the loader (Settings → Reset to factory settings) or use ProSave to enumerate the panel.
What is the difference between TP177B PN/DP and TP177B DP?
The PN/DP variant (6AV6642-0BA01-1AX1) includes an Ethernet 10/100 port in addition to MPI/PROFIBUS DP, enabling Ethernet transfer. The DP-only variant lacks the Ethernet port and is restricted to PPI/MPI serial transfer. Both share the same 6" STN 256-color display and WinCC flexible project format.
Which WinCC flexible version is required to program the TP177B?
WinCC flexible 2007 SP2 or later (including the WinCC flexible 2008 branch up to SP5) is required. Earlier versions (2005, 2004) do not include the TP177B device image. WinCC flexible is the last engineering environment to support the TP177B family — TIA Portal uses the TP700 Comfort / TP700 Basic as successors.