Problem Overview
Siemens STARTER (SINAMICS Startdrive commissioning tool, pre-TIA) is the field-proven commissioning environment for the SINAMICS drive family (SINAMICS G110, G120/G120C, G120D, S110, S120, S150, MV) on PROFIBUS and PROFINET. STARTER V5.3 HF1 is the final standalone release before the product line was consolidated into Startdrive inside TIA Portal.
Engineering workstations fail to install STARTER V5.3 HF1 in three characteristic patterns:
- Re-install loop: An initial install works, the program is launched once, then a subsequent launch refuses to enumerate the connected drives (e.g. SINAMICS G120) and the user is forced to reinstall.
- Cross-version corruption: Reinstalling STARTER V5.1, downgrading to V4.5, or installing multiple drive support packages (SSP) on top of each other produces MSI/InstallShield rollback errors.
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Hard fail during setup:
SETUP.EXEaborts mid-transaction, MSI error1719,1603, or1911is reported, and the working directory is left with partialInstData,SSP_*, andHELPfolders that block the next attempt.
These failures are not application bugs; they are the typical surface symptoms of a corrupted Windows Installer database, conflicting Microsoft Office 64-bit registration, locale-mismatched ZIP attributes, or antivirus quarantine of the unzipped InstData tree.
Affected Versions and Environment
| Component | Affected Versions | Status |
|---|---|---|
| STARTER commissioning tool | V4.5, V5.1, V5.2, V5.3 (pre-HF1) | Bug: installer exits silently on Windows 10/11 with Office 64-bit |
| STARTER commissioning tool | V5.3 HF1 (recommended build) | Last standalone STARTER with stable InstallShield shell |
| Drive Support Packages (SSP) | G110_G120, FAMILY, DCM, MV, SIMOTION_INTEGRATED, SINUMERIK_INTEGRATED, BT | Must match STARTER major version |
| Operating system | Windows 7 SP1 (x64), Windows 10 (x64 1709+), Windows Server 2016/2019 | Windows 10 21H2+ shows the highest failure rate without locale fix |
| Microsoft Office | Office 2010/2013/2016/2019/365 (x64) | Confirmed root-cause of STARTER MSI 1719 failures |
Root Cause Catalog
Mapping observed errors to underlying causes lets you skip the random-Google-search phase and go directly to the corrective action.
| Symptom | Underlying Cause | Confidence |
|---|---|---|
Error 1719. The Windows Installer Service could not be accessed |
Office 64-bit (especially Click-to-Run) re-registered msiexec.exe paths |
High |
Error 1603. Fatal error during installation |
Antivirus quarantines InstData\*.msi mid-rollback, or partial prior install left locked files |
High |
Error 1911 (could not register type library) |
Locale is not English (USA); Unicode translation of registry strings breaks type library GUID lookup | High |
| SETUP.EXE returns to desktop without UI | ZIP archives still carry the Mark-of-the-Web MotW alternate-data-stream | High |
| STARTER launches but does not see the connected drive on the second start | SSP G110_G120 folder missing, or anti-virus has quarantined the SINAMICS.exe trace directory |
Medium |
| Setup fails inside VirtualBox / Hyper-V VM, succeeds on host | VM has a snapshot with the wrong locale; restore a clean English(USA) snapshot | Medium |
Pre-Installation Preparation
Perform every step below before the first SETUP.EXE run. Skipping one is the most common reason for a second failed install.
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Uninstall Microsoft Office x64 (recommended action). If the workstation has any 64-bit Office build (Office 2010 64-bit, 365 64-bit, Volume License x64), uninstall it completely using Microsoft SaRA or the
SetupProd_OffScrub.exetool. Install the 32-bit (x86) edition of Office instead. If Office is not business-critical on the engineering workstation, uninstall it outright. -
Set Windows locale to English (United States).
- Control Panel → Clock and Region → Region → Administrative
- Set Current system locale =
English (United States). - Click Change system locale… → tick Beta: Use Unicode UTF-8 for worldwide language support OFF (this is the option that breaks STARTER's type library registration).
- Reboot.
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Download all three STARTER V5.3 HF1 ZIPs from the Siemens Industry Online Support entry 76799481. The bundle ships in three archives (Vol_1, Vol_2, Vol_3) plus an SSP volume. Do not run any
.exeuntil all four archives are present on disk. -
Unblock every archive before extraction. In Windows Explorer, right-click each ZIP → Properties → check Unblock → Apply. Or from an elevated PowerShell:
Get-ChildItem .\STARTER_V53_HF1*.zip | Unblock-File Get-ChildItem .\SSP*.zip | Unblock-File -
Extract to a path with no spaces. Use a short root, e.g.
C:\SW\STARTER. The full path must contain no spaces; the InstallShield shell silently mis-parses MSIProperty=values that contain whitespace. -
Disable real-time AV. Microsoft Defender, CrowdStrike, SentinelOne, Trend Micro, and Symantec Endpoint Protection all quarantine
InstData\setup.exeexecutables and theSSP_G110_G120sub-folder. Pause real-time protection, or add the extraction root to the AV allow-list. -
Set compatibility flags on the bootstrapper. Right-click
SETUP.EXE→ Properties → Compatibility → Run this program as administrator → Apply.
Step-by-Step Installation Procedure
- Confirm the extracted layout matches the expected structure. After unpacking, the common file folder must contain:
If any of these folders is missing, the corresponding ZIP volume did not extract successfully — repeat the unblock + extract cycle.\CommonFileFolder\01_Readme\ \CommonFileFolder\HELP\ \CommonFileFolder\InstData\ \CommonFileFolder\SSP_BT\ \CommonFileFolder\SSP_DCM\ \CommonFileFolder\SSP_FAMILY\ \CommonFileFolder\SSP_G110_G120\ \CommonFileFolder\SSP_HELP\ \CommonFileFolder\SSP_MV\ \CommonFileFolder\SSP_SIMOTION_INTEGRATED\ \CommonFileFolder\SSP_SINUMERIK_INTEGRATED\ \CommonFileFolder\Unsupported Tools\ - Open an elevated Command Prompt,
cdto the root, and launch the installer explicitly:
The verbose MSI log is the single most important artifact. If the install fails, this log is what Siemens support will request first.cd C:\SW\STARTER\CommonFileFolder setup.exe /L*vx C:\SW\STARTER_INSTALL.log - Accept the license dialog and choose Complete (not Custom). Custom mode allows you to skip the
SSP_G110_G120package, which is the cause of STARTER launches but no drives are detected. - Wait for the install to reach Configuring ODBC data sources. This step is where the Microsoft Installer Service is invoked and where Office 64-bit conflicts surface as MSI
1719. - If a dialog reports a non-fatal warning during install, do not click OK and continue. Click Cancel, capture a screenshot, abort, and proceed to Resolving Common Installation Errors below.
- On success, the installer reports Installation successfully completed. Close the dialog and reboot before first launch.
Resolving Common Installation Errors
| Error Code / Pattern | Diagnostic Command | Corrective Action |
|---|---|---|
| MSI 1719 / Windows Installer service not accessible | sc query msiserver |
Re-register: msiexec /unregister then msiexec /regserver. If that fails, uninstall 64-bit Office and reboot. |
| MSI 1603 fatal error | Inspect %TEMP%\setupact.log and the verbose log from step 2 above |
Remove leftover install: msizap G is deprecated; use MsiInv.exe /gc from the Windows SDK Components Cleanup utility, or boot to Safe Mode and delete %ProgramFiles(x86)%\Siemens\Automation manually. |
| MSI 1911 type library registration | Search verbose log for RegisterTypeLib
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System locale mismatch. Re-confirm step 2 of Pre-Installation Preparation and reboot. |
| SETUP.EXE exits immediately (no UI) | Right-click ZIP → Properties → check for Unblock checkbox | Archive still carries Mark-of-the-Web. Apply Unblock on every ZIP and re-extract. |
| STARTER starts but no drive visible (second launch) | Check %ProgramFiles(x86)%\Siemens\Automation\STARTER\Drives for an empty offline folder |
Re-run the SSP installer: InstData\SSP_G110_G120\Setup.exe. The SSP must match the STARTER major version (5.3). |
Runtime error launching STARTER: SINAMICS.exe - Entry Point Not Found
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Search the install log for VCREDIST
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Install the bundled vcredist_x86.exe from \CommonFileFolder\Unsupported Tools\. |
For Windows Installer issues outside the STARTER-specific surface, the Microsoft Visual Studio installation troubleshooting guide applies the same clean Installer folder → rerun bootstrapper pattern that works for any InstallShield-shelled product.
Clean Uninstall and Reinstall Procedure
If the install fails twice on the same machine, the partial state in %ProgramFiles(x86)%\Siemens and the HKLM\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Siemens registry branch will block every subsequent attempt. Use the procedure below before trying again.
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Standard uninstall:
Then run the Programs and Features Control Panel applet and remove any remaining STARTER, SIMOTION SCOUT, DRIVE ES, or SINUMERIK Integrate entries.wmic product where "name like 'Siemens%%' and vendor like 'Siemens%%'" call uninstall /nointeractive -
Remove residual folders:
rmdir /S /Q "%ProgramFiles(x86)%\Siemens" rmdir /S /Q "%ProgramData%\Siemens" rmdir /S /Q "%LOCALAPPDATA%\Siemens\Automation" -
Strip the registry: open
regeditas Administrator and remove:HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\SiemensHKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Siemens- All subkeys under
...\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstallwhose DisplayName contains STARTER or SINAMICS.
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Reset the Windows Installer:
net stop msiserver msiexec /unregister msiexec /regserver net start msiserver -
Clear
%TEMP%and reboot. - Re-attempt the install from a freshly downloaded set of ZIPs, with locale and Office x86 status confirmed.
Alternative Deployment: VirtualBox Workaround
When the engineering workstation's Windows install is too corrupted to remediate in place, deploy STARTER inside an Oracle VirtualBox VM. This pattern is widely used for SINAMICS lab benches and is the most reliable way to get a working STARTER instance on a non-Engineering laptop.
- Create a Windows 10 (or Windows 7) VM, 4 vCPU, 8 GB RAM, 80 GB dynamic disk.
- Set the VM's region and language to English (United States) during Windows setup.
- Do not install any version of Microsoft Office inside the VM.
- Install VirtualBox Guest Additions and re-enable bridged networking if the VM needs to see real PROFINET/ETHERNETIP gateways.
- Apply the pre-installation checklist from above, then run the STARTER V5.3 HF1 setup.
- Take a snapshot named STARTER_V53_HF1_BASELINE. This becomes your restore point for any future install corruption.
Verification Procedure
After install, perform the following checks to confirm a healthy state.
- Process start: launch STARTER from Start → Siemens Automation → STARTER. The splash screen should display STARTER V5.3 + SPx + HFx matching the downloaded bundle.
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Component registration: confirm the COM library by running
dcomcnfgand verifying the Starter.DriveFrame application appears under DCOM Config. -
ODBC sources: open ODBC Data Sources (32-bit) and confirm the
SINAMICSsystem DSN exists. -
Drive discovery: connect a SINAMICS G120 (or any node on PROFIBUS/PROFINET), go online, and verify the drive appears in the project tree. If it does not, repeat
InstData\SSP_G110_G120\Setup.exe. - License check: Help → About should report the expected Drive ES version (typically V5.5 or later) and the STARTER build.
- Cold-reboot test: reboot the workstation and re-launch STARTER. The project must open with the previously configured online connection intact — this is the precise failure mode the original poster was reporting.
Escalation: Creating a Siemens Support Request
If all of the above has been applied and STARTER still fails, escalate via the Siemens Industry Online Support portal. The agent will require:
- The full verbose MSI log from step 2 of the install procedure (
setup.exe /L*vx). - The Windows installer event log:
eventvwr.msc → Windows Logs → Applicationfiltered to source MsiInstaller, exported as.evtx. - The MSInfo32 report:
msinfo32 /report C:\MSINFO32.NFO. - The STARTER installation log directory, typically
%LOCALAPPDATA%\Siemens\Automation\STARTER\Logand the Windows%TEMP%\Siemensdirectory. - Screenshots of any in-flight error dialogs (do not click them away).
Attach all artifacts to a support request at the Siemens Industry Online Support portal and reference the STARTER V5.3 HF1 entry (Support entry 76799481). The supporting error log bundle for the original symptom is published as Siemens Support entry 76799493; match the log signatures before submitting to avoid duplicate triage.
Why does installing STARTER V5.3 HF1 fail with MSI error 1719 when Microsoft Office 64-bit is present?
Microsoft Office 64-bit (especially Click-to-Run 365) re-registers the msiexec.exe path and Office COM components in a way that conflicts with STARTER's 32-bit InstallShield bootstrapper. STARTER's setup cannot resolve the Installer service handle and aborts with MSI error 1719. Uninstall 64-bit Office, install 32-bit Office, or remove Office entirely on engineering workstations.
Does setting the system locale to English (United States) really fix STARTER install errors?
Yes. The InstallShield shell uses ANSI type-library GUIDs that are not locale-safe; non-USA locales combined with the Windows 10 UTF-8 beta flag break type-library registration and surface as MSI 1911. Set Current system locale to English (United States), disable the UTF-8 beta flag, and reboot before unpacking the ZIP archives.
STARTER installs the first time, but the second launch cannot see the drive. What is wrong?
The Drive Support Package (SSP) for your drive family was not installed. Re-run InstData\SSP_G110_G120\Setup.exe from the extracted common file folder. The SSP version must match the STARTER major version (5.3 for V5.3 HF1). Confirm the connected SINAMICS G120, S120, or MV drive is on a routable PROFINET or PROFIBUS subnet.
Can I install STARTER V5.3 HF1 in a VirtualBox VM instead of fixing my host?
Yes. This is the recommended workaround for engineering workstations with deep Office 64-bit installations or locked Windows images. Use a Windows 10 VM with English (USA) locale, do not install any Office version, install Guest Additions, and take a baseline snapshot after the first successful STARTER install.
What log files does Siemens support require to triage a STARTER install failure?
Submit the verbose MSI log captured with setup.exe /L*vx, the Windows Application event log filtered to source MsiInstaller, the MSInfo32 report, the contents of %LOCALAPPDATA%\Siemens\Automation\STARTER\Log, and any in-flight error screenshots. Do not click through dialogs before capturing them.