Resolving WinCC flexible ES/RT Version Mismatch on IPC277D

David Krause11 min read
HMI / SCADASiemensTroubleshooting
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1. Problem Overview

Engineers commissioning a SIMATIC IPC277D Nanopanel PC with WinCC flexible Runtime (PC-RT) frequently encounter a hard-stop during project transfer: the Engineering Station (ES) builds the project without warnings, the runtime loader on the panel accepts the transfer request, and the download is interrupted with the message:

14:04:29.54 Transfer   Info  : Download is not possible. This WinCC flexible ES version and the WinCC flexible Runtime software version on the operating unit are not compatible.
14:04:29.54 Transfer   Info  : Transfer failed!

The same symptom occurs when the panel is targeted as SIMATIC HMI Panel rather than Panel PC in the device configuration. This article documents the exact root cause, the matching service-pack policy enforced by Siemens, the license implications, and a step-by-step recovery procedure. The matching problem class also surfaces in current TIA Portal / WinCC Unified workflows as described in the Siemens documentation: Error messages during loading of projects (RT Unified).

2. Affected Hardware and Software Stack

Component Variant on the Affected Unit Notes
SIMATIC IPC277D Nanopanel PC, 7"/10"/12"/15"/19" TFT Part numbers 6AV7880-0A* (Atom N270 / N2800)
Operating system Windows Embedded Standard 2009 (XPe) Default image shipped with 6AV7880-0A*
HMI engineering tool SIMATIC WinCC flexible 2008 (ES) Build 1.4.0.0 referenced in this case
HMI runtime SIMATIC WinCC flexible 2008 Runtime (PC-RT) License supplied on RT license USB/CD
Connection Ethernet, 10/100/1000 Mbps Loader "Transfer" mode, remote control enabled
Note on image variants: The IPC277D can be ordered with Windows Embedded Standard 7 (WES7) or with Windows XP Embedded (XPe). Both images ship with the WinCC flexible RT pre-installed on the read-only EWF volume, but the patch level depends on the manufacturing date of the unit. Always re-confirm the SP/Update level on the device side before any engineering step.

3. Transfer Log Dissection

The transfer log captured during the failed attempt is short but unambiguous. Each line is reproduced below together with the engineering meaning and the expected condition for a successful transfer.

Log line Phase Successful behavior
14:04:25.04 Compiler Info : Compiling started ES compile Both must report 0 error / 0 warning
14:04:25.57 Compiler Info : Number of generated tags: 139 ES compile Tag count visible in project properties
14:04:25.57 Compiler Info : Number of PowerTags used: 87 ES compile PowerTags ≤ licensed PowerTag count
14:04:25.59 Compiler Info : Required license: WinCC flexible /Recipes for PC-RT License check Recipe option must be present on the panel
14:04:25.59 Compiler Info : Succeeded with 0 error(s), 0 warning(s) ES compile Pass-through required
14:04:28.04 Transfer Info : Establishing connection to device... Loader connect TCP/UDP handshake via WinCC Loader port
14:04:29.54 Transfer Info : Download is not possible. This WinCC flexible ES version and the WinCC flexible Runtime software version on the operating unit are not compatible. Version gate Must NOT appear. Indicates ES/RT SP mismatch.
14:04:29.54 Transfer Info : Transfer failed! Loader Only displayed on hard failure

The 1.5 s gap between Establishing connection to device and the version-mismatch error is the network handshake completing successfully; the runtime then inspects the project header and rejects it on SP version. This rules out cabling, IP addressing, and firewall as the failure cause.

4. Root Cause

WinCC flexible 2008 enforces a strict ES = RT version parity rule. The transfer carries a project header that includes the ES build, the SP number, and the hotfix/update identifier. The runtime validates this header against its own internal version record before accepting a single byte of runtime data. If any of the following differ, the transfer is rejected with the message above:

  • Major version (2008 vs. 2005 vs. 2007)
  • Service Pack level (SP1 vs. SP2 vs. SP3 vs. SP4 vs. SP5)
  • Update / Hotfix identifier (e.g., Update 1, Update 2, HF7)

In the affected unit, the ES was updated to SP3 (typically delivered through the WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 Update media), while the IPC277D still carried the original SP2 RT image that was bundled with the license. Because SP2 RT does not know how to interpret a project compiled by SP3 ES, the loader aborts the transfer.

Field-proven caveat: Siemens Support case material explicitly states that the ES and RT must carry the exact same Service Pack and Update. A SP3 ES paired with a SP3 RT without the matching Update identifier (or vice versa) will still fail with this same error. Always apply the same SP and the same Update on both sides.

A secondary but important observation: the ES is not blocked from selecting Panel PC in the device tree for an IPC277D, but the resulting project will be tagged as PC-RT and not Panel RT. The runtime build needed on the target is therefore WinCC flexible 2008 Runtime (PC-RT), not the embedded Panel RT used for the OP/TP/MP product lines. The recipe-license message in the log confirms the runtime build targeted.

5. License Requirements

Three license classes are relevant for an IPC277D running WinCC flexible PC-RT:

License Order Number (typical) Required for
WinCC flexible PC-RT base (128 PowerTags) 6AV6613-1BA01-1CA0 Runtime boot, up to 128 PowerTags
WinCC flexible PC-RT PowerTag upgrade (to 512 / 2048 / 4096) 6AV6613-1*B*0* Each additional 128 / 1024 PowerTag pack
WinCC flexible /Recipes for PC-RT 6AV6613-1AA01-1AA0 Recipe view, recipe data records

The log line Required license: WinCC flexible /Recipes for PC-RT is emitted by the compiler and is informational; it does not gate the transfer. The runtime, however, will refuse to start visualization with recipes if the corresponding license is not present. Always install Recipes for PC-RT on the IPC277D when the project contains one or more recipe views.

6. Prerequisites for Recovery

  1. Inventory of installed media. Locate the WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 Update DVD (or downloaded package) and the matching SP3 Update install for the PC-RT. Verify the printed part number matches the Engineering Station installation.
  2. Administrative credentials on both the engineering PC and the IPC277D (XPe is configured with the Siemens user, password Siemens by default — change before connecting to a live network).
  3. Ethernet connectivity between ES and IPC277D, same subnet, ping test green from both directions.
  4. Loader setting Enable Transfer ticked, Remote Control allowed, and (for XPe) the Enhanced Write Filter (EWF) configured to commit changes after install.
  5. Snapshot / image of the IPC277D before any update. Use SIMATIC IPC Image & Partition Creator or a third-party tool such as Acronis True Image.

7. Step-by-Step Recovery Procedure

  1. Confirm the ES version. On the engineering PC, open WinCC flexible 2008 ES, then Help → About. Record the full version string, e.g. WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 Update 1 (1.4.0.0_1.50). The build must end with a hotfix identifier.
  2. Confirm the RT version on the panel. On the IPC277D, start WinCC flexible Loader, then Help → About or inspect C:\Program Files\Siemens\Automation\WinCC flexible 2008 RT\Readme.rtf. Record the SP and hotfix level. If the panel is at SP2, an update is mandatory.
  3. Open a Siemens support request for the SP3 Update media if it is not on hand. The ES-2008 SP3 Update and the RT-2008 SP3 Update are distributed as separate packages and the RT update is not always included in the box-delivered license media.
  4. Apply the SP3 Update on the ES. Run Setup.exe from the ES SP3 Update package, accept the license, and reboot. Re-verify the version string in Help → About.
  5. Disable the EWF on the IPC277D before installing the RT update: open an elevated command prompt and run ewfmgr c: -commitanddisable followed by a reboot. With the EWF disabled, file changes persist across restarts.
  6. Install the RT SP3 Update on the IPC277D. Copy the package to C:\Temp\WinCC_RT_SP3 and run Setup.exe. Reboot when prompted.
  7. Re-enable the EWF (recommended for production) with ewfmgr c: -enable and capture a clean image with the partition tool.
  8. Start the WinCC flexible Loader on the IPC277D and select Transfer. The transfer button must be enabled and Remote mode set.
  9. Trigger a transfer from the ES: Project → Transfer → Transfer. The transfer window should now show Download is being prepared, then Transferring Device_1, then Transfer finished! in roughly 20-40 s for a 285 kB project.
  10. Verify the runtime. Once transferred, the runtime should start automatically (if the loader is set to Start Runtime), display the start screen, and respond to the first operator input within 2 s.

8. Verification Checklist

# Check Pass criteria
V1 ES → Help → About SP3 + matching hotfix identifier
V2 RT → Loader → About Same SP3 + matching hotfix identifier
V3 Ping from ES to panel < 1 ms on a /24 LAN, 0% loss
V4 Transfer log "Transfer finished!" line present, no version-mismatch
V5 Project timestamp on panel Matches the compile timestamp from the log
V6 PowerTag count 87 ≤ licensed PowerTag count
V7 Recipe view Opens and edits records, persists across reboot
V8 EWF state Enabled after install, project survives reboot

9. Troubleshooting Matrix

Symptom Most likely cause Fix
"version not compatible" during transfer ES SP / hotfix differs from RT SP / hotfix Match SP and Update on both sides (see Section 7)
Loader does not show IPC277D in the device list WinCC flexible 2005 ES in use Upgrade ES to 2008 SP3
Transfer log shows "Establishing connection..." for > 30 s then timeout Loader not in Transfer mode or wrong IP Set Loader to Transfer / Remote, check Control Panel → Set PG/PC Interface
Transfer succeeds but runtime does not start Loader not configured to start runtime after transfer Loader → Settings → tick "Start runtime after transfer"
Recipe view greyed out at runtime Recipes for PC-RT license missing Install 6AV6613-1AA01-1AA0 and re-license
Changes lost after reboot EWF enabled, not committed Run ewfmgr c: -commit after install, then re-enable
Compile warning "Tag limit exceeded" PowerTag count > license Buy additional PowerTag pack, or reduce tag count

10. Preventive Measures

  • Maintain a single, version-controlled repository for the WinCC flexible installation media. Tag every DVD / ISO with SP + Update + build number.
  • Capture a full disk image of the IPC277D immediately after commissioning. This image is the gold standard for any future RMA or factory reset.
  • Document the ES and RT version strings in the project header. WinCC flexible stores these in the project properties and the runtime stores them in System\Version; diffing the two before a transfer is a 30 s check that prevents a 30 min fault.
  • Disable Windows Auto-Update on the IPC277D. Service packs and hotfixes from public Microsoft channels can move the underlying OS build and trigger further compatibility drift with the WinCC RT image.
  • When commissioning multiple IPC277D units, apply the update on a single reference unit, verify, image, and clone — this avoids divergent patch levels on the shop floor.

11. Reference: Common Version Strings

ES / RT version Build string Notes
WinCC flexible 2008 1.3.0.0 Initial release, no SP
WinCC flexible 2008 SP1 1.3.1.0 First service pack
WinCC flexible 2008 SP2 1.3.2.0 Common on IPC277D shipping in 2011-2012
WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 1.4.0.0 Required for the affected unit
WinCC flexible 2008 SP3 Update 1 1.4.0.0_1.50 Hotfix overlay, must be applied on both sides
WinCC flexible 2008 SP4 1.4.1.0 Last SP for the 2008 line
Forward compatibility note: The same logical rule (ES and RT must carry the same major.minor.SP.Update identifier) reappears in current TIA Portal / WinCC Unified workflows. The official Siemens documentation for WinCC Unified lists the equivalent error class under Error messages during loading of projects (RT Unified), where typical causes are: incorrect settings for downloading, incorrect HMI device type in the project, or the HMI device not connected. When migrating from WinCC flexible to WinCC Unified, run a clean install of the Unified PC-RT on the IPC277D and remove the legacy WinCC flexible RT first to avoid dual-loader conflicts on port 4410.

12. FAQ

Why does WinCC flexible 2008 refuse a project even when both sides report SP3?

The ES and RT must also share the same hotfix / Update identifier. A SP3 ES paired with a SP3 RT without the matching Update (for example Update 1) will still fail with "version not compatible." Verify both About dialogs end with the same suffix and reinstall the Update on the side that lags.

Can I keep the WinCC flexible RT SP2 on the IPC277D and only update the ES?

No. The runtime version gate is enforced on the target. The transfer is aborted at the version check in the loader; the only recovery is to update the RT to the same SP and Update as the ES, or to roll the ES back to match the panel.

Does the Recipes for PC-RT license block the transfer?

No. The Recipes license is required at runtime when the project actually contains recipe views, but the transfer itself is blocked by the ES/RT version mismatch. The log line "Required license: WinCC flexible /Recipes for PC-RT" is informational and will appear on every compile as long as the project references recipes.

Where is the WinCC flexible Loader port configured?

The WinCC flexible Loader listens on TCP/UDP port 4410 by default. Open the inbound rule on the engineering PC and the IPC277D Windows Firewall for this port. The same port is used by WinCC flexible / TIA Portal transfer, so do not run an older Loader at the same time.

How do I prevent losing the project after enabling the EWF?

Run ewfmgr c: -commit after every transfer or configuration change, then re-enable the EWF with ewfmgr c: -enable. The EWF caches writes in RAM; without an explicit commit the cached project is dropped on the next reboot.

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